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Burris Appointment
Alright, so I was just listening to Hannity, and he is actually in favor of seating Burris. His take is that the Governor of Illinois, while clearly corrupt, did follow the law by selecting a candidate the meets the qualifications for the Senate. He, and Pat Buchanan both believe that what Harry Reid and the Democrats are doing is illegal, so I figured I would get everyone's take on this.
I don't necessarily think it matters since he isn't going to side with the Republicans, but maybe the Republicans could turn some negative press on the democrats by actually supporting his seating. Like I said, I am not necessarily for this idea or against it, but I just thought it would be interesting to get everyone's take on it. Take care
I don't necessarily think it matters since he isn't going to side with the Republicans, but maybe the Republicans could turn some negative press on the democrats by actually supporting his seating. Like I said, I am not necessarily for this idea or against it, but I just thought it would be interesting to get everyone's take on it. Take care
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Permalink Reply by Mark Collins on -
The only basis for denying the seat is prudence. You can easily make the argument that the people are not served by allowing a governor, under investigation of trying to sell a senate seat, to then appoint someone to that seat. This is why the Illinois Secretary of State did not sign off on it. It's pretty irrelevent at this point since the Luitenant Governor would be compelled to make the same appointment if Blago stepped down. Still....I've never seen a party backtrack this fast.
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Permalink Reply by Bob Warren on -
I believe that prudence has gone out the window with Obama. He is clearly the least qualified and most inexperienced man to be elected to the presidency. Burris is more qualified. I do think, however, that all Americans should have an interest in the Burris appointment because a Senator, unlike a Governor, is a national rather than state figure.
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Permalink Reply by Brad Smith on -
Coby W. Dillard said:The Constitution says the governor has the right to make an appointment to fill an open seat. But it also says that the respectives houses (House and Senate) have the right to determine the qualifications of their members.
Right, and Article 1, Section 3 lists those qualifications: "No person shall be senator who shall not have attained to the age of 30 years, and been nine years a citizen of the United States." (and be an inhabitant of the state of course)
Which means that Congress can't just decide not to seat someone, unless they don't meet those criteria. The Supreme Court has ruled previously on almost this exact issue, see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powell_v._McCormack. I doubt SCOTUS will draw a distinction between election and appointment. Then again, that was the Warren court, so who knows...
I'm willing to bet my house that Burris gets seated, and Harry Reid comes out of this looking like a bigger fool than he already is.
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Permalink Reply by Sandy Cope on
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Something I just heard on Fox. In order for Burris to be legally seated, he must have the Ill. Secretary of State sign off on the appointment. That has not happened yet. He is also going to testify tomorrow to the Ill. Legislature who is moving forward to Impeach Blago. I just heard that impeachment can happen within 48 hours. So, when they met a few weeks ago on the Blago issue, why did they not move ahead with the Impeachment issue then? Because they are running scared that a Republican can be elected to the seat if a special election happens. Are there any competent people running Illinois?
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Permalink Reply by Sandy Cope on
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For my friend Mark-
Mark Collins said:You may be right Sandy. Glenn may be about to lose his audience. The thing that annoyed me about his common sense rant was the implication that he gets to decide what is "common sense". That's very arrogant.
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Permalink Reply by Lynn Fairchild Martin on -
Sandy Cope said:Something I just heard on Fox. In order for Burris to be legally seated, he must have the Ill. Secretary of State sign off on the appointment. That has not happened yet. He is also going to testify tomorrow to the Ill. Legislature who is moving forward to Impeach Blago. I just heard that impeachment can happen within 48 hours. So, when they met a few weeks ago on the Blago issue, why did they not move ahead with the Impeachment issue then? Because they are running scared that a Republican can be elected to the seat if a special election happens. Are there any competent people running Illinois?
I agree completely that the Illinois Dems have let their own fears get in the way of their better judgment. They are running scared that the American voters just might have already started to wake up enough to realize some of the after effects of their votes in November.
And, has anyone noticed that Richardson seems to have fallen off of the radar since the weekend? I seriously hope that one isn't going to be swept under the rug.
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Permalink Reply by Sandy Cope on
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Bob- As I had forgotten, isn't the appointment not legal until the Secretary of State signs off on the appointment?
Bob Warren said:There was no legal basis for denying Burris his seat. For Republicans, Blago is the issue. He clearly reflects the current state of corruption in the Illinois Democrat party and the smarter American people are beginning to realize that they have been had. I like what Rush recently said namely truth doesn't matter --- the populace is so in love with Obama.
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Permalink Reply by Sandy Cope on
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Lynn- It seems that you may be worrying a little too much about the stories in the MSM. They will never, ever, write a story in favor of Republicans, period. Did the most of them say that they will do everything to make Obama look good and successful. No matter what the Republicans say, they will never get a pass or any positive reports. I stand with my position that we Republicans stay away from the issue. We cannot make Burris less fuzzy no matter what we say.
Lynn Fairchild Martin said:The problem in not saying at least something is that not enough of the average Americans who are watching the news even know who Harry Reid is. With all of the news being against a Democratic appointment, too many of them are already assuming that Reid must be a Republican. Mind you, most of Americans don't even pay attention anymore. They catch their news in blips; and at this point in the past, two days (especially today), the news headlines are referring to the Dems warming to Burris. Even on the AOL News front page (which incidentally went Dem for the election) one of the story lines is "Senate Democrats Move Toward Embracing Burris." It's that sort of thing that the average American is likely to pick up.
We're all keeping with the news. This is important to us, but many, everyday Americans don't have the time or inclination to keep up. I'd place money on the Dems coming out of this looking like they took in poor, little Burris. It's already becoming their spin.
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Permalink Reply by Lynn Fairchild Martin on
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Sandy Cope said:
Mind you, I have no interest in making Burris less fuzzy. My concern is just having the spin come right back, the way that it is today, making the Dems look like they're the rescuing heroes in the situation. Now, don't get me wrong. I do not want to rescue Burris. I think that he should be tarred and feathered along with Blago, but I also want to make certain that the Dems' turn at being portrayed today as "embracing" doesn't make them warm and fuzzy in the people's eyes.Lynn- It seems that you may be worrying a little too much about the stories in the MSM. They will never, ever, write a story in favor of Republicans, period. Did the most of them say that they will do everything to make Obama look good and successful. No matter what the Republicans say, they will never get a pass or any positive reports. I stand with my position that we Republicans stay away from the issue. We cannot make Burris less fuzzy no matter what we say.
Lynn Fairchild Martin said:The problem in not saying at least something is that not enough of the average Americans who are watching the news even know who Harry Reid is. With all of the news being against a Democratic appointment, too many of them are already assuming that Reid must be a Republican. Mind you, most of Americans don't even pay attention anymore. They catch their news in blips; and at this point in the past, two days (especially today), the news headlines are referring to the Dems warming to Burris. Even on the AOL News front page (which incidentally went Dem for the election) one of the story lines is "Senate Democrats Move Toward Embracing Burris." It's that sort of thing that the average American is likely to pick up.
We're all keeping with the news. This is important to us, but many, everyday Americans don't have the time or inclination to keep up. I'd place money on the Dems coming out of this looking like they took in poor, little Burris. It's already becoming their spin.
And as for worrying too much about news reports, my beef is that they're missing. There are no more reports flowing about Richardson's stepping back. Next week, the American voters won't even know that it had happened. If this had happened in a Republican leading government, the Dems would have had the spin working for them. That's how they keep winning these elections. We have to work to make certain that we appear in the right. We can't just sit back and rest on the fact that we can't turn the media. That's why Obama is getting ready to be inaugurated. We didn't stand up publicly for issues when we should have. I don't want to see them run this next year, and we're already going to have a fight on our hands in Virginia as it is.
We can't just sit back and hope that things are going to make the Dems look bad. We have to progressively get out there and make ourselves look good. They're certainly going to be working at it.
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Permalink Reply by Sandy Cope on
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Lynn- You are absolutely correct that the Republicans must get out in front, but, with issues we can win on. The Burris issue is a loser. I have said elsewhere that the Republican's need to stand on the steps of the Capitol building and scream about what is going on in the Senate and the House. With the Libs having the majority in both houses, we are most definately going to have to choose our battles so that eventually we win the war. This is not an important enough issue to go to war for. The Dems are self-destructing on this. Let them do it.
Lynn Fairchild Martin said:Sandy Cope said:
Mind you, I have no interest in making Burris less fuzzy. My concern is just having the spin come right back, the way that it is today, making the Dems look like they're the rescuing heroes in the situation. Now, don't get me wrong. I do not want to rescue Burris. I think that he should be tarred and feathered along with Blago, but I also want to make certain that the Dems' turn at being portrayed today as "embracing" doesn't make them warm and fuzzy in the people's eyes.Lynn- It seems that you may be worrying a little too much about the stories in the MSM. They will never, ever, write a story in favor of Republicans, period. Did the most of them say that they will do everything to make Obama look good and successful. No matter what the Republicans say, they will never get a pass or any positive reports. I stand with my position that we Republicans stay away from the issue. We cannot make Burris less fuzzy no matter what we say.
Lynn Fairchild Martin said:The problem in not saying at least something is that not enough of the average Americans who are watching the news even know who Harry Reid is. With all of the news being against a Democratic appointment, too many of them are already assuming that Reid must be a Republican. Mind you, most of Americans don't even pay attention anymore. They catch their news in blips; and at this point in the past, two days (especially today), the news headlines are referring to the Dems warming to Burris. Even on the AOL News front page (which incidentally went Dem for the election) one of the story lines is "Senate Democrats Move Toward Embracing Burris." It's that sort of thing that the average American is likely to pick up.
We're all keeping with the news. This is important to us, but many, everyday Americans don't have the time or inclination to keep up. I'd place money on the Dems coming out of this looking like they took in poor, little Burris. It's already becoming their spin.
And as for worrying too much about news reports, my beef is that they're missing. There are no more reports flowing about Richardson's stepping back. Next week, the American voters won't even know that it had happened. If this had happened in a Republican leading government, the Dems would have had the spin working for them. That's how they keep winning these elections. We have to work to make certain that we appear in the right. We can't just sit back and rest on the fact that we can't turn the media. That's why Obama is getting ready to be inaugurated. We didn't stand up publicly for issues when we should have. I don't want to see them run this next year, and we're already going to have a fight on our hands in Virginia as it is.
We can't just sit back and hope that things are going to make the Dems look bad. We have to progressively get out there and make ourselves look good. They're certainly going to be working at it.
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